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	<title>Comments on: Odds And Ends</title>
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	<description>the original awesome t-shirt blog</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Rambo</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Rambo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.lafraise.com has a 10% affiliate commission program that might be worth checking into.

that and they have some slick shirts. (but then we&#039;re back to the conflict of interest subject)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.lafraise.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lafraise.com</a> has a 10% affiliate commission program that might be worth checking into.</p>
<p>that and they have some slick shirts. (but then we&#8217;re back to the conflict of interest subject)</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and as for Suicide Girls etc, as long as the banners are safe for work, I couldn&#039;t give a crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and as for Suicide Girls etc, as long as the banners are safe for work, I couldn&#8217;t give a crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I was thinking that hands off would be better. That way it removes any potential conflicts of interest. If some third party is doing the actual ad placement, then no one can say anything about you choosing favs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I was thinking that hands off would be better. That way it removes any potential conflicts of interest. If some third party is doing the actual ad placement, then no one can say anything about you choosing favs.</p>
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		<title>By: Yas</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Yas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jason:&lt;/strong&gt; I guess you&#039;re right, but regardless &#8212; your site gets traffic, and traffic equals sales. Whether it&#039;s AA or someone else, I think that marketing clothing companies couldn&#039;t hurt. I&#039;d stay away from t-shirt sites, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jason:</strong> I guess you&#8217;re right, but regardless &#8212; your site gets traffic, and traffic equals sales. Whether it&#8217;s AA or someone else, I think that marketing clothing companies couldn&#8217;t hurt. I&#8217;d stay away from t-shirt sites, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Farnell</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Farnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be happy with ads, and I think Medopine&#039;s got the right idea there.

Also, I think you could do some kind of membership thing like Daring Fireball does - not just an ad-free version of the site like you suggested, but perhaps a t-shirt too? I&#039;d happily pay around $20-35 for a year&#039;s membership of your site, if there were a few reasonably meaningful benefits (like a t-shirt, and maybe some kind of extra, members-only content - for example on DF, John offers access to his link blog to members).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be happy with ads, and I think Medopine&#8217;s got the right idea there.</p>
<p>Also, I think you could do some kind of membership thing like Daring Fireball does &#8211; not just an ad-free version of the site like you suggested, but perhaps a t-shirt too? I&#8217;d happily pay around $20-35 for a year&#8217;s membership of your site, if there were a few reasonably meaningful benefits (like a t-shirt, and maybe some kind of extra, members-only content &#8211; for example on DF, John offers access to his link blog to members).</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cosper</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cosper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Yas:&lt;/strong&gt; Do you remember how critical we&#039;ve been of AA in the past?  Do you think they&#039;d run ads with us now?

&lt;strong&gt;Cameron:&lt;/strong&gt; *nod* It sounds like a solid list.  And with the exception of pr0n [see: SuicideGirls] it was really similar to the one I already had.

As far as what FM or IndieClick would do, I&#039;m not sure as I haven&#039;t heard back from either of them just yet.  I very well may be a bit more hands off, but they both have systems in place and are a little more experienced in ad sales than I am.  It&#039;s a trade off I&#039;d be willing to make if I didn&#039;t have to worry about dealing with all that mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yas:</strong> Do you remember how critical we&#8217;ve been of AA in the past?  Do you think they&#8217;d run ads with us now?</p>
<p><strong>Cameron:</strong> *nod* It sounds like a solid list.  And with the exception of pr0n [see: SuicideGirls] it was really similar to the one I already had.</p>
<p>As far as what FM or IndieClick would do, I&#8217;m not sure as I haven&#8217;t heard back from either of them just yet.  I very well may be a bit more hands off, but they both have systems in place and are a little more experienced in ad sales than I am.  It&#8217;s a trade off I&#8217;d be willing to make if I didn&#8217;t have to worry about dealing with all that mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you should go with who ever will advertise with you, using Medopine&#039;s &quot;no to&quot; list as a rule of thumb.

If you go with something like Federated Media or IndieClick won&#039;t you be more hands off? That would mean that who ever advertised with you would have little or no direct contact with you no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you should go with who ever will advertise with you, using Medopine&#8217;s &#8220;no to&#8221; list as a rule of thumb.</p>
<p>If you go with something like Federated Media or IndieClick won&#8217;t you be more hands off? That would mean that who ever advertised with you would have little or no direct contact with you no?</p>
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		<title>By: Yas</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Yas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does American Apparel do web ads? They&#039;re innocuous enough (and a pretty darn good shirt maker).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does American Apparel do web ads? They&#8217;re innocuous enough (and a pretty darn good shirt maker).</p>
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		<title>By: jessica</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 02:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with the indie music sites/bands. i don&#039;t see that as being a conflict of interest, and it seems like a win win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with the indie music sites/bands. i don&#8217;t see that as being a conflict of interest, and it seems like a win win.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cosper</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2006/03/odds-and-ends.php#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cosper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry...  We will never ask you to punch a monkey, click here for a free iPod, consolidate your debt with a 2nd/3rd mortgage, get the amazing new blah blah Mastercard, etc.  Nor will we ever resort to pop-ups or pop-unders.

So the more feedback that I&#039;m getting, the more it seems like I should go with an agency like Federated Media or IndieClick rather than worry about affiliate programs.

I still want to know what the rest of you think, so please don&#039;t think this matter is settled after a handful of comments.  Speak up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry&#8230;  We will never ask you to punch a monkey, click here for a free iPod, consolidate your debt with a 2nd/3rd mortgage, get the amazing new blah blah Mastercard, etc.  Nor will we ever resort to pop-ups or pop-unders.</p>
<p>So the more feedback that I&#8217;m getting, the more it seems like I should go with an agency like Federated Media or IndieClick rather than worry about affiliate programs.</p>
<p>I still want to know what the rest of you think, so please don&#8217;t think this matter is settled after a handful of comments.  Speak up!</p>
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