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		<title>Word Of The Indeterminate Period: Clothundrum</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cosper</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Preshrunk pal Matt Haughey just cooked up a damn good term that holds a lot of resonance for me seeing&#160; <a href="http://preshrunk.org/2007/09/word-of-the-indeterminate-period-clothundrum.php" class="read-more">Continue Reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preshrunk pal <a href="http://haughey.com/">Matt Haughey</a> <a href="http://a.wholelottanothing.org/2007/09/14/word-of-the-day-that-i-made-up/">just cooked up</a> a damn good term that holds a lot of resonance for me seeing as how I own more than my fair share of &#8220;clever&#8221; shirts&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Clothundrum <em>(n)</em><br />
<blockquote>When a person that orders <a href="http://wireandtwine.com/store/men/">witty</a>, <a href="http://insanelygreattees.com/">nerdy</a>, and <a href="http://threadless.com/">humorous</a> t-shirts on the internet, enough to make them the &#8220;funny t-shirt guy&#8221; in their hometown, needs to travel to a function that will include other people that order witty, nerdy, and humorous t-shirts on the internet and is having trouble packing. See also: <a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/conundrum">conundrum</a>, <a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/clothing">clothing</a>.</p></blockquote>
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<p>This has happened to me more times than I care to imagine.  I don&#8217;t even know how many times I&#8217;ve spent the night before I leave for a conference leafing thru my closet trying to pick the most choice tees that hopefully nobody else would rock.  I even go so far as to carry a spare shirt in my laptop bag in case somebody shows up wearing the same shirt.  Too much?  Maybe.  I&#8217;m just weird like that tho&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Preshrunk On Attack Of The Show</title>
		<link>http://preshrunk.org/2007/01/preshrunk-on-aots.php</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cosper</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had no clue that this had happened, but one of my coworkers dropped me video of a Preshrunk mention&#160; <a href="http://preshrunk.org/2007/01/preshrunk-on-aots.php" class="read-more">Continue Reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
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<p>I had no clue that this had happened, but one of my coworkers dropped me video of a Preshrunk mention on G4&#8242;s <em>Attack Of The Show</em> last week.  Wondering why I didn&#8217;t happen to catch a referrer from them, I checked their blog and noticed that they <a href="http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/672771/Blog_Watch.html">dropped the wrong link into their show notes</a>.  Whatever.  I&#8217;m just happy to get my hands on this and share it with y&#8217;all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Threadless Deals With Plagiarism</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Mason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img width="250" height="272" src="http://preshrunk.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/minizoom.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" title="" /></p><em>[<strong>Editor's Note:</strong> Preshrunk homey <a href="http://taint.org/">Justin Mason</a> has done a wonderful job of <a href="http://taint.org/2006/12/12/122230a.html">following a recent debacle</a> involving plagiarism at Threadless.  With his permission, we've gone ahead and posted it here for y'all to enjoy.]</em>

<p>There's an interesting situation playing out at <a href='http://www.threadless.com/'>Threadless</a> &#8212; I think this may be the first time a stolen design made it through voting and so on, onto cotton, without being spotted.  Here&#8217;s the design, supposedly by someone called &#8216;rocketrobyn&#8217;:</p>

<p style="text-align:center;"><a href='http://www.threadless.com/product/692/Tagged?streetteam=jmason'><img src='http://www.threadless.com/product/692/minizoom.jpg' height=272 width=250 /></a></p>

<p>And here&#8217;s the (apparently original) stencil art by miso and <a href="http://www.ghostpatrol.net/">ghostpatrol</a>:</p>

<p style="text-align:center;"><img src='http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/ghostpatrol/2006-7-11/152289660_f124b84248.jpg' width='445' height='500'/></p>

<p>BTW, note the perspective being copied from the photo&#8217;s odd angle, to the shirt design&#8230;</p>

<p><a href="http://www.threadless.com/submission/87855/tagged">The Threadless design&#8217;s submission page</a> has some classic comments:</p>

<ul><li><strong>Boney_King_of_Nowhere</strong>: Wow. Are you by any chance a fan of Bansky? Because this is almost a rip off. Almost. Awsome though.</li>
<li><strong>rocketrobyn <em>(this is my design)</em></strong>: Thank you for the positive comments. I really like this shirt too! [&#8230;] I&#8217;m not sure who Bansky <em>[jm:sic]</em> is, but I&#8217;ll check it out!</li></ul>

<p>Heh.</p>

<p>I heard about this via <a href="http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/">You Thought We Wouldn&#8217;t Notice</a>, a street-design plagiarism blog, where <a href="http://www.ghostpatrol.net/">ghostpatrol</a> (one of the stencil artists) posted <a href="http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=137">a blog post</a> about the situation. In the comments there, Jake from Threadless pipes up:</p>

<blockquote><p>jake n on 12 Dec 2006 at 4:30 am</p>

<p>hey, jake here from threadless. i was just made aware of this situation and want to give you all my assurance that we will handle this properly.</p>

<p>the designer will not be paid and the design will either be removed or licensed from the original designer if they are willing.</p>

<p>give us a couple days to sort the details.</p></blockquote>

<p>Not to appear whingy, 2 hours later &#8220;n.&#8221; posts:</p>

<blockquote><p>The original owners are not willing to license this design to Threadless, and want it removed from the site. Neither artist has yet been contacted by Threadless.</p></blockquote>

<p>Bit of patience there ;)</p>

<p>More links:</p>

<ul><li><a href='http://stencilrevolution.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=347745#347745'>StencilRevolution forum thread</a>, pretty much down due to load</li>
<li><a href="http://www.threadless.com/profile/147906/Outlaw01/blog/94849/So_it_s_stolen_but">Threadless blog thread: &#8216;So it&#8217;s stolen&#8230; but can we keep the design?&#8217;</a>: &#8216;I personally really like the design, and feel it should stay within the ranking of Threadless shirts. It would be a shame to see it on the retired page just because someone was a thief.&#8217;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.threadless.com/profile/354413/The_Crackers/blog/94816/I_feel_bad_for_wanting_this">Another blog thread: &#8216;I want it now that it&#8217;s a rarity!&#8217;</a>: uh, no.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.threadless.com/profile/50336/stolenpie/blog/94695/disappointed">&#8216;i will not be purchasing this. and am reconsidering anymore purchases from this website&#8217;</a>, OH TEH DRAMA</li>
<li><a href="http://www.threadless.com/blogs/products/692/Tagged">Lots more Threadless blog reactions</a></li></ul>

<p>It&#8217;s an interesting situation, and so far Threadless is handling it very well as far as I can see &#8212; the only people who <em>aren&#8217;t</em> are some <em>other</em> graf and stencil artists in the reaction threads, <a href="http://www.threadless.com/profile/50336/stolenpie/blog/94695/disappointed">vituperating about Threadless not using psychic powers to detect plagiarism</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p>i tell you, you aren&#8217;t printing any of my subs, i know it as they score way too low to get noticed. but on the off chance that someone rips off a design i&#8217;ve done, as blatantly as this&#8230;i would definitely seek reparations from threadless and the offending subber. do a background check with the subbers available websites etc.</p></blockquote>

<p><em>Background checks</em>?!  wtf.</p>

<p><a href="http://stencilrevolution.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17857">Good reaction from miso</a> though:</p>

<blockquote><p>Once again, we own automatic copyright on these images,&#8230;</p>

<p>To clarify &#8212; we are not blaming Threadless. They didn&#8217;t take the design knowing that it was stolen [if they had done so witch such knowledge, we would be approaching this very differently].</p>

<p>This is the fault of the &#8220;designer&#8221;, and hopefully this will sort itself out in the next few days. [Who, by the way, has claimed to have done these designs &#8212; &#8220;This is a t-shirt I designed for Threadless.&#8221;]</p>

<p>As yet, either GP nor I have yet been contacted by either the company or &#8220;designer&#8221; to fix this, but Jake from Threadless has left a very nice comment for us on &#8220;You Thought We Wouldn&#8217;t Notice&#8221;.</p></blockquote>

<p><a href="http://www.threadless.com/blogs/products/692/Tagged">The Threadless blog reactions</a> are worth watching if you want to follow the ongoing drama.</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img width="250" height="272" src="http://preshrunk.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/minizoom.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" title="" /></p><em>[<strong>Editor's Note:</strong> Preshrunk homey <a href="http://taint.org/">Justin Mason</a> has done a wonderful job of <a href="http://taint.org/2006/12/12/122230a.html">following a recent debacle</a> involving plagiarism at Threadless.  With his permission, we've gone ahead and posted it here for y'all to enjoy.]</em>

<p>There's an interesting situation playing out at <a href='http://www.threadless.com/'>Threadless</a> &#8212; I think this may be the first time a stolen design made it through voting and so on, onto cotton, without being spotted.  Here&#8217;s the design, supposedly by someone called &#8216;rocketrobyn&#8217;:</p>

<p style="text-align:center;"><a href='http://www.threadless.com/product/692/Tagged?streetteam=jmason'><img src='http://www.threadless.com/product/692/minizoom.jpg' height=272 width=250 /></a></p>

<p>And here&#8217;s the (apparently original) stencil art by miso and <a href="http://www.ghostpatrol.net/">ghostpatrol</a>:</p>

<p style="text-align:center;"><img src='http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/ghostpatrol/2006-7-11/152289660_f124b84248.jpg' width='445' height='500'/></p>

<p>BTW, note the perspective being copied from the photo&#8217;s odd angle, to the shirt design&#8230;</p>

<p><a href="http://www.threadless.com/submission/87855/tagged">The Threadless design&#8217;s submission page</a> has some classic comments:</p>

<ul><li><strong>Boney_King_of_Nowhere</strong>: Wow. Are you by any chance a fan of Bansky? Because this is almost a rip off. Almost. Awsome though.</li>
<li><strong>rocketrobyn <em>(this is my design)</em></strong>: Thank you for the positive comments. I really like this shirt too! [&#8230;] I&#8217;m not sure who Bansky <em>[jm:sic]</em> is, but I&#8217;ll check it out!</li></ul>

<p>Heh.</p>

<p>I heard about this via <a href="http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/">You Thought We Wouldn&#8217;t Notice</a>, a street-design plagiarism blog, where <a href="http://www.ghostpatrol.net/">ghostpatrol</a> (one of the stencil artists) posted <a href="http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=137">a blog post</a> about the situation. In the comments there, Jake from Threadless pipes up:</p>

<blockquote><p>jake n on 12 Dec 2006 at 4:30 am</p>

<p>hey, jake here from threadless. i was just made aware of this situation and want to give you all my assurance that we will handle this properly.</p>

<p>the designer will not be paid and the design will either be removed or licensed from the original designer if they are willing.</p>

<p>give us a couple days to sort the details.</p></blockquote>

<p>Not to appear whingy, 2 hours later &#8220;n.&#8221; posts:</p>

<blockquote><p>The original owners are not willing to license this design to Threadless, and want it removed from the site. Neither artist has yet been contacted by Threadless.</p></blockquote>

<p>Bit of patience there ;)</p>

<p>More links:</p>

<ul><li><a href='http://stencilrevolution.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=347745#347745'>StencilRevolution forum thread</a>, pretty much down due to load</li>
<li><a href="http://www.threadless.com/profile/147906/Outlaw01/blog/94849/So_it_s_stolen_but">Threadless blog thread: &#8216;So it&#8217;s stolen&#8230; but can we keep the design?&#8217;</a>: &#8216;I personally really like the design, and feel it should stay within the ranking of Threadless shirts. It would be a shame to see it on the retired page just because someone was a thief.&#8217;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.threadless.com/profile/354413/The_Crackers/blog/94816/I_feel_bad_for_wanting_this">Another blog thread: &#8216;I want it now that it&#8217;s a rarity!&#8217;</a>: uh, no.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.threadless.com/profile/50336/stolenpie/blog/94695/disappointed">&#8216;i will not be purchasing this. and am reconsidering anymore purchases from this website&#8217;</a>, OH TEH DRAMA</li>
<li><a href="http://www.threadless.com/blogs/products/692/Tagged">Lots more Threadless blog reactions</a></li></ul>

<p>It&#8217;s an interesting situation, and so far Threadless is handling it very well as far as I can see &#8212; the only people who <em>aren&#8217;t</em> are some <em>other</em> graf and stencil artists in the reaction threads, <a href="http://www.threadless.com/profile/50336/stolenpie/blog/94695/disappointed">vituperating about Threadless not using psychic powers to detect plagiarism</a>:</p>

<blockquote><p>i tell you, you aren&#8217;t printing any of my subs, i know it as they score way too low to get noticed. but on the off chance that someone rips off a design i&#8217;ve done, as blatantly as this&#8230;i would definitely seek reparations from threadless and the offending subber. do a background check with the subbers available websites etc.</p></blockquote>

<p><em>Background checks</em>?!  wtf.</p>

<p><a href="http://stencilrevolution.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17857">Good reaction from miso</a> though:</p>

<blockquote><p>Once again, we own automatic copyright on these images,&#8230;</p>

<p>To clarify &#8212; we are not blaming Threadless. They didn&#8217;t take the design knowing that it was stolen [if they had done so witch such knowledge, we would be approaching this very differently].</p>

<p>This is the fault of the &#8220;designer&#8221;, and hopefully this will sort itself out in the next few days. [Who, by the way, has claimed to have done these designs &#8212; &#8220;This is a t-shirt I designed for Threadless.&#8221;]</p>

<p>As yet, either GP nor I have yet been contacted by either the company or &#8220;designer&#8221; to fix this, but Jake from Threadless has left a very nice comment for us on &#8220;You Thought We Wouldn&#8217;t Notice&#8221;.</p></blockquote>

<p><a href="http://www.threadless.com/blogs/products/692/Tagged">The Threadless blog reactions</a> are worth watching if you want to follow the ongoing drama.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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