[Editor’s Note: Preshrunk homey Justin Mason has done a wonderful job of following a recent debacle involving plagiarism at Threadless. With his permission, we’ve gone ahead and posted it here for y’all to enjoy.]
There’s an interesting situation playing out at Threadless — I think this may be the first time a stolen design made it through voting and so on, onto cotton, without being spotted. Here’s the design, supposedly by someone called ‘rocketrobyn’:
And here’s the (apparently original) stencil art by miso and ghostpatrol:
BTW, note the perspective being copied from the photo’s odd angle, to the shirt design…
The Threadless design’s submission page has some classic comments:
- Boney_King_of_Nowhere: Wow. Are you by any chance a fan of Bansky? Because this is almost a rip off. Almost. Awsome though.
- rocketrobyn (this is my design): Thank you for the positive comments. I really like this shirt too! […] I’m not sure who Bansky [jm:sic] is, but I’ll check it out!
Heh.
I heard about this via You Thought We Wouldn’t Notice, a street-design plagiarism blog, where ghostpatrol (one of the stencil artists) posted a blog post about the situation. In the comments there, Jake from Threadless pipes up:
jake n on 12 Dec 2006 at 4:30 am
hey, jake here from threadless. i was just made aware of this situation and want to give you all my assurance that we will handle this properly.
the designer will not be paid and the design will either be removed or licensed from the original designer if they are willing.
give us a couple days to sort the details.
Not to appear whingy, 2 hours later “n.” posts:
The original owners are not willing to license this design to Threadless, and want it removed from the site. Neither artist has yet been contacted by Threadless.
Bit of patience there ;)
More links:
- StencilRevolution forum thread, pretty much down due to load
- Threadless blog thread: ‘So it’s stolen… but can we keep the design?’: ‘I personally really like the design, and feel it should stay within the ranking of Threadless shirts. It would be a shame to see it on the retired page just because someone was a thief.’
- Another blog thread: ‘I want it now that it’s a rarity!’: uh, no.
- ‘i will not be purchasing this. and am reconsidering anymore purchases from this website’, OH TEH DRAMA
- Lots more Threadless blog reactions
It’s an interesting situation, and so far Threadless is handling it very well as far as I can see — the only people who aren’t are some other graf and stencil artists in the reaction threads, vituperating about Threadless not using psychic powers to detect plagiarism:
i tell you, you aren’t printing any of my subs, i know it as they score way too low to get noticed. but on the off chance that someone rips off a design i’ve done, as blatantly as this…i would definitely seek reparations from threadless and the offending subber. do a background check with the subbers available websites etc.
Background checks?! wtf.
Good reaction from miso though:
Once again, we own automatic copyright on these images,…
To clarify — we are not blaming Threadless. They didn’t take the design knowing that it was stolen [if they had done so witch such knowledge, we would be approaching this very differently].
This is the fault of the “designer”, and hopefully this will sort itself out in the next few days. [Who, by the way, has claimed to have done these designs — “This is a t-shirt I designed for Threadless.”]
As yet, either GP nor I have yet been contacted by either the company or “designer” to fix this, but Jake from Threadless has left a very nice comment for us on “You Thought We Wouldn’t Notice”.
The Threadless blog reactions are worth watching if you want to follow the ongoing drama.
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It’s not the first time.
http://www.threadless.com/product/284/The_Killing_Tree
This design was found to be ripped off. Threadless swore to never print it again.
Also, the highest-scoring threadless submission stole the idea… and also the tree
http://www.threadless.com/product/286/Predicament
Check this out: http://www.threadless.com/abouttagged
well, doesn’t everyone love happy endings?
Bit of a pity that this comes at the end of their holiday sale, and I’m not too sure if the two artists would have been designing a Threadless Select tee if this mess hadn’t occurred.
While this is certainly plagiarism, a moral no-no for artists, it is also copyright infringement and illegal.
Thanks for teh repost, boogah!
well, what’s done is done isn’t it? though it is the designers fault, he shouldn’t have copied, and he got $2000 dollars for copying. Great. Maybe I should go plagarise now. Wow. The hypocrisy in this world.
Outbreak Girl (http://www.threadless.com/product/73/Outbreak_Girl) was jacked from a non-licensed stock photo. I think they ended up just buying the stock photo to deal with that one.
“well, what’s done is done isn’t it? though it is the designers fault, he shouldn’t have copied, and he got $2000 dollars for copying. Great. Maybe I should go plagarise now. Wow. The hypocrisy in this world.”
V, the “designer” did not receive any prize money for ripping off the design. She formally apologized, and the prize was given to the original designers.
Threadless has also had another design that was basically taken from somewhere else– the one design with the Beatles putting each other in make up. Also, I think the design with the devil and angel or whatever boxing was stolen. They were both taken from pretty ancient books, but it was cheaitng nonetheless.
This is so naive. How can anyone think he can submit a design to threadless and it won’t be spotted as stolen.
I bet the stencil is also infringing on some obscure copyright holder.
This is not the first time they have stolen a design. Most of the old designs were stolen from the European festival shirt industry, I used to sell most of their “original designs” back in the late 90s, before Threadless even existed, the founders are well aware of where the shirts come from, but won’t admit it for obvious reasons.
Their website is designed around “user submission” giving them a degree of separation and plausible denial from the actions they take, it is so shady… and so many people buy into it. They then try and crush all competition calling other’s thieves to try and have a total and complete monopoly on the business. Scumbags
Europeans know they are a bunch of liars. Their entire business is based on a lie. Sometimes Threadless calls the original designers thieves these days in fear of being sued or something. I hate Threadless. Evil on so many levels.
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